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John Carlisto Shares Journey From Partial Preterism to Covenant Eschatology

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John Carlisto

On this evening’s broadcast, John Carlisto of EuFalla, Al, shared the story of his journey from Partial Preterism to Covenant Eschatology. John is married and has five children. He attended the Northwest Florida School of Biblical Studies.

John has been on a 10 year journey in Christian studies that led him to fulfilled Bible prophecy or Covenant Eschatology. A major influence on his studies was a very popular book by a late and renown scholar in the churches of Christ, Franklin J. Camp entitled, The Holy Spirit in the Work of Redemption.

The book so effectively influenced many Amillennial partial  preterists to Covenant Eschatology that it was once taken off the market for that very reason.

When it was republished again, it contained a disclaimer,  much like those used by reformed partial preterists, some of whom also deny their views effectively lead to an  understanding that all Bible prophecy was fulfilled in A.D. 70.

John, has met with opposition from futurists who are unsettled by the implications that Christ has returned. He shares the story of his current living conditions and how his career has changed. Yet, he is positive and encouraged.

This is a great message for anyone who may be going through similar experiences or others who are on the brink of a decision and are unsure of what they might face.

Discover some of the key passages that led to Covenant Eschatology, namely, some of the same texts which Partial Preterists are disputing today. It is a lively discussion which we are certain you will appreciate. Please keep John and his family in your prayers.

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2 comments

  1. Thanks. It seems so disingenuous for those in the establishment to use the following to “prove” preterism invalid, heretical or worse:

    1. There are less than 1,000 full preterists. The implication That the sheer size of a group is the determinant to the truth that group espouses. What a ludicrous assertion. I find it odd that one of the most strident anathematizers of full preterists, ran a newsletter by the name of Remnant Review. Isn’t a “remnant” a small number? Isn’t the majority often wrong? And given the hereticalizing and ostracizing (which is clearly not atypical), is there any wonder why people are afraid to “come out of their preterist closet”? So the number of visible full pretersts is cleearly understated.

    2. There aren’t tenured full preterist professors. Is there truly any wonder why? Either they are afraid to admit it for obvious career-ending reasons, or they’re so fearful of being stigmatized that they run as fast and as far as they can from FP. Since intellectual honesty is throttled, this objection is moot.

    Full preterism is clearly growing. One day, hopefully in the not so distant future, it will be treated with far more intellectual honesty. The opposition knows they’re on shaky ground or they wouldn’t be burning books and doing nonsensical YouTube rants, all trying to scare people away from the sound scholarly study they once embraced.

  2. I posted the following on FB in response to the typical “How can you be a Christian and be a full preterist?”

    “Original sin? Check. Virgin birth? Check. The Incarnation? Check. The perfect life of Christ, the spotless Lamb of God? Check. The atonement? Check. Salvation by grace alone through faith alone? Check. Jesus’ bodily resurrection? Check. Jesus’ conquering of death? Check. The Ascension? Check. The 2nd Coming? Check. The resurrection of the dead? Check. The immediate indwelling of the Spirit upon belief? Check. Sola Scriptura? Check. The Inspiration of the Bible? Check. I believe EVERYTHING that is essential! Yet, because I don’t believe that in some fashion, that physical bodies are going to be reconstituted and immediately discarded for a new body, that I’m somehow outside the bounds of the Christian faith?”

    After this, a couple of self-ascribed experts, wanting so badly to prove me a heretic, ignoring almost the entire list, chose to expose my severe error. And it was so grievous that I was asked how I could possible be a Christian and believe such heresy. They chose the incarnation of Christ. Nothing else. And what did they argue? That I didn’t believe in the true incarnation because I don’t believe that Jesus is still 5’9″ and 165 lbs. Are you kidding me? I supposedly deny the incarnation of Christ because I don’t believe Jesus is still fleshly? That’s just plain ridiculous. And they had the unmitigated gall to question my salvation because of this?

    Listen, I think it’s necessary and appropriate to challenge one another and do everything in our power to remain true to the Scripture. But to add to the Gospel by requiring me to believe their delusion, is absurd at best. I have no problem if people want to believe that Jesus is still a circumcised Jewish man, but to hereticalize others who don’t believe the same, is at least one significant reason why the church is in this mess.

    Can’t we learn to love one another when it comes to the non-essentials and join together in unity on the things that really matter. When it’s all said and done, God is far more interested in what we believe about the Gospel and how we love one another, than He is over the current state of Jesus’ body.

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